the crew is just dead inside at the big networks. it's because nobody ever asked them their opinion. did i -- who did i say, jack -- harry, you heard it. i said what did you guys think of that? one of these guys said, you talking to me? i said yeah. it's insane. you would think you come here every night, and you think i have answers or i have creative ideas but sometimes it comes from these guys. there was a time when i was going to get rid of the chalkboards and i said i don't know, maybe we need something high-tech or something -- and it was oscar that said no. i was like okay that's not good. i think oscar said something like, your signature -- you are mr. chalkboard. all dusty? that's my significant. it was oscar you can thank for that. you were the one who said also we should talk to the black community, black conservatives and find out what they were saying. it was his idea. we didn't do just one show, we did two. we followed up with it. it was an amazing, amazing show. jack, jack was a guy who said, you should have a juggler o